UPDATE: Shelley is now using Getresponse for her list on ShelleyHitz.com to have more features and automation.
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The price of Aweber gets most people. If you’re NOT a for profit business then the added costs are really not justified unless like you like losing money.
I briefly looked at Traffic Wave a couple of years ago, but I’ve been using Get Response for the past few years and I know getting people to subscribe again would cost me subscribers and that’s a risk I’m not willing to take – at least not at this moment.
Your article was very informative in telling the pros and cons of each service. Keep the great articles coming!
You’re so right that Aweber works best for businesses that are for profit as it is the best in the industry with the highest deliverability rates, etc.
And I’m not advocating that everyone switch from their current provider. If you already have someone you use that is working well for you then that’s great. I simply wanted to share why we decided to switch ourselves.
Randy,
One of the biggest disadvantages with MailChimp is that many times they do not allow any affiliate links or affiliate marketing in your e-mails. I’ve heard of people getting their accounts shut down due to using affiliate links. MailChimp states they do not ban affiliate links but they do stop e-mails with links that are on blacklists.http://kb.mailchimp.com/article/does-mailchimp-ban-affiliate-links
However, MailChimp can be great for small lists. Unfortunately, their prices do go up with subscribers and their prices are very similar to Aweber’s. The following prices are from their website (http://mailchimp.com/pricing/):
1,001 – 2,500 subscribers – $30
2,501 – 5,000 – $50
5,001 – 10,000 – $75
10,001 – 25,000 – $150
So, personally, I would have had the same issues with MailChimp that I had with Aweber in that once I had over 10,000 subscribers, I would be paying $150 per month.
It seems to me that when I switched from Aweber to Vertical Response that I could upload my list to them and assure them that they were already double opted in subscribers. Did you not get this opportunity with Traffic Wave?
I’m with Corrisa–not anxious to risk losing the hard-won list I have.
Deborah,
With TrafficWave you can import your list, but your subscribers still have to confirm to be added to the list. I did just send TrafficWave a support request asking if they would be able to completely transfer a list for a TrafficWave member if you gave them the log in information to both accounts to prove that the list was a double opt-in list. I know Aweber has done this for me before. So I will let you know what I find out.
Personally, in my case, I started a new list in TrafficWave for my self-publishing-coach.com site over a year ago. I then transferred almost all my other lists from Aweber to TrafficWave at that time except my previous self-publishing-coach.com subscribers as I have an autoresponder system that they go through and there was no easy way to import them into a new list without messing up that system. Therefore, I waited until they were all through the autoresponder messages and then decided to import them into TrafficWave.
I do realize that I will lose some subscribers and at this time am willing to take that risk. In addition to saving the extra money, this is a way for me to weed out my list to those who truly want to continue to hear from me, learn from me and stay connected.
In the end, I’m not advocating that everyone switch e-mail providers. If you have a company you like and that works well for you, great. But, if you are just getting started with e-mail marketing, then I do recommend using TrafficWave for the reasons stated in the blog post.
Thank you for the detailed analysis.
I did try Traffic Wave free and decided that it was not for me.
Traffic Wave in my opinion has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to design, user friendliness, features and customer service. It leaves so much to be desired for a serious for profit marketer.
I like both Aweber and Get Response. They’re the ones I’ve used and I believe in paying the money for the service that best meets your needs.
Dear Shelley: Great article!
I switched from Aweber two years ago for the same reason: cost! I now have over 25,000 subscribers, and would be paying more than I can afford per month. Sure, TW has some kinks, but I’ve learned to work with/around/through/insert another preposition them, and get things done.
Of course, there are days when I miss the flexibility of Aweber (capitalizing the first letter of the first name!) or the beauty of MailChimp or another mailer. But, it’s very hard to argue against the constant, never-changing rate of $17.95.
Thanks for your article!
Dear Shelley – thanks for your post.
I switched to TW 2 years ago from Aweber, and have been pleased overall. Although I miss some of the bells & whistles of Aweber, I *don’t* miss paying $150/mo, which is where I would be right now with a list of 20k subscribers.
The biggest problem I have with TW has been its inability to capitalize the first letter of each person’s name. This has been a sore spot of mine for a couple of years. Amazingly, while typing this message, I realized that I can have a VA on fiverr spend 3 hours fixing this annoyance for $5. I’ll just need to keep up with the maintenance, and I’ll do that monthly going forward.
Thanks for your post — it’s good to see other serious professionals who use TW.
Shelley/Heather,
Thanks for the post. It’s very helpful.
I want to use a mailing list for ministry. My plan is to start out using MailChimp, since it’s free for up to 2,000 subscribers. If I ever go over 2,000, then I plan to switch to TrafficWave for all the reasons you give.
My question is: Is my strategy viable? Will it be easy or hard to transfer my list of 2,000 subscribers from MailChimp to TrafficWave if and when that time comes?
Can the lists be sent emails from a different business name and email address. I currently use godaddy and it appears there you can just have one business name and email address if I understand correctly.
Thanks for the info.
Hi!
Great post. I have used a week now trying to decide between Aweber and Trafficwave. It’s really difficult to choose. I’m new in this email marketing business and I have heard so much great things about Aweber, but I don’t like their pricing.
The TrafficWave deal sounds better, but their site design doesn’t look very modern if you know what I mean. I’m sure they have a great service anyway, but these days your mind interpret “nice design” as “serious solition”. And I like that you can access their affiliate program right away when you pay. I think you have to apply on Aweber?
I’m Norwegian, so my only concern is this physical address CAN-SPAM law. I don’t really want to add my Norwegian address to emails, but maybe I’ll just have too. Do you know any other solutions? Like having an US postbox or something?
Thanks for any advice.
regards
Andreas
I’m really glad I found this site. It looks like TrafficWave is the way to go. I really appreciate the tips you included in this article to begin building a list and the way you demonstrated how TrafficWave works with free marketing plan offer.
Since I am also planning on creating short e-books, I had to sign up. Great site ladies!
Steve
One think I don’t like about trafficwave is that they add my private email address I used in opening the account to footer of messages I sent out. Even when I have email address that is already at the footer.
Another thing is that there is nothing like list segmentation. You can segment your list based on subscriber’s activities and interest for better targeting.
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